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Is this the end of deep dish pizza?

pizzaAnswer: no.

But this piece in The Chicago Tribune is interesting , if only for the fact that I didn't know that a lot of people from Chicago think that there isn't good deep dish pizza outside of the Windy City area. That's not true. For example, in the Boston area, deep dish pizza has been around for decades and is as popular here as thin crust pizza. In the mid-80s I worked at a pizza place and all we sold was deep dish. I've found that much of the pizza that people rave about in the big cities is actually overrated, whether its thick or thin crust. But there's a lot of good pizza out there.

I like both deep dish pizza and thin crust. It all depends on what mood I'm in.

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Tags: chicago style pizza, deep dish pizza, pizza, thin crust pizza

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matt

12-18-2007 @4:49PM matt said... So are you from Chicago, and you think there is good deep-dish in Boston? Or do you just think there is good deep dish in Boston?

This is an important point, because Chicago pizza is not like most deep dish, and many might argue that there isn't any good stuff outside the city.
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Jen

12-18-2007 @6:16PM Jen said... Chicago style deep-dish pizza isn't anything like regular deep-dish pizza. And it's true that there isn't any good Chicago style deep=dish pizza outside of the metro area.
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Colleen

12-18-2007 @6:34PM Colleen said... I have to agree with the first two commenters here, having lived in Chicagoland during college. Before arriving there, I thought "deep-dish pizza" meant a thick, bready crust myself, but in Chicago it's just not that way at all. The crust isn't all that thick - not really as thick as a Pizza Hut-style pan pizza. The thickness comes from the pound of cheese on the thing plus all the toppings. And all that cheese and the other toppings go under the sauce on a real Chicago-style pizza. If people in Chicago think they can't get good deep-dish pizza outside the local area, it's because it just doesn't exist in that form elsewhere.
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Cheryl

12-18-2007 @8:09PM Cheryl said... Zachary's Pizza deep dish pizza in the SF Bay Area is just as good as that in Chicago, and I HAVE had both!
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ShortWoman

12-18-2007 @8:26PM ShortWoman said... You know, I grew up in the Chicago area. I ate my fair share of pizza growing up. Lou Malnati's is great stuff.

But you know what? There's an Uno in Las Cruces NM. There's a Flying Tomato in Dallas. All claims that you can't get "Chicago" style pizza much outside Chicago and just maybe Urbana are suspect.

There, I have spoken the heresy, let the flames rage.
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Megan

12-19-2007 @3:36PM Megan said... I'd like to second the vote for Zachary's in Berkeley. We used to drive an hour just to get lunch. Of course, you'd have to have to wait another hour to get a seat.
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Gobo

12-19-2007 @6:27AM Gobo said... Bob, where's a good place to get either kind of pizza here in Boston? I haven't lived here long but I've been a little disappointed in the pizza I've had so far... with Upper Crust Pizza being the worst offender (I don't care what the Phantom Gourmet says, it tasted like school cafeteria pie!).
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Ariel

12-19-2007 @8:50AM Ariel said... All of the pizza in Boston is horrendous! I'm a north jersey native getting through my 4th year in boston, and they do not have thin crust by any means. And I've never seen deep dish anywhere(and I worked at the uno's on huntington, that doesn't count)
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Adriane

12-20-2007 @12:41AM Adriane said... Don't listen to the Phantom gourmet-- they review CRAP fast food places most of the time and rave they are the best thing since sliced bread ...

I'm going to say it and sound like a poser; I really do like California Pizza Kitchen...something about that honey-wheat crust gets me every time.
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Bob Sassone

12-19-2007 @11:21AM Bob Sassone said... I guess I should have been more specific, but when I said "Boston" I meant the Boston/Massachusetts area, not the city of Boston itself. There's some fantastic pizza here, but it's mostly in the suburbs.

(And I agree with you about Upper Crust...outrageously overrated.)
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Elizabeth

1-15-2008 @7:21PM Elizabeth said... Mmmm, Pizzeria Uno. I've only eaten it once in my life, but I've never forgotten it. It's the chunky tomato sauce on the top that makes it unique. We have absolutely nothing like it where I live.

Elizabeth from http://momcooks.net
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kevin

12-19-2007 @6:16PM kevin said... On the deep dish side in Boston there is Bostone Pizza, which features "Sicilian" pizza, not along the lines of Uno and Lou Malnati's Chicago pizza, but still thick and light.
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Carrie

12-19-2007 @6:23PM Carrie said... Chicago style pizza isn't deep dish--it's stuffed pizza. The difference, like another commenter said, is a thin-ish crust and then the cheese and toppings are mixed together and fill up the whole pan (pie style) and then are covered with tomato sauce (so the cheese is underneath instead of on top). I've lived in Chicago, Indianapolis, Seattle, LA and Austria and never found anything quite like a delicious stuffed spinach pizza from Chicago.
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Lis Riba

12-20-2007 @11:30AM Lis Riba said... There's some fantastic pizza here, but it's mostly in the suburbs.

Well, don't keep us in suspense -- name names!
Yer makin' me hungry. [I'm in one of the northern suburbs.]
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Lis

12-20-2007 @11:28AM Lis said... There's some fantastic pizza here, but it's mostly in the suburbs.

Well, don't keep us in suspense -- name names!
Yer makin' me hungry. [I'm in one of the northern suburbs.]
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Lis Riba

12-20-2007 @11:32AM Lis Riba said... And because it's only polite to give as well as receive, though I haven't been there in years to know if the quality's held up, Franca's Brick Oven Pizzeria in Waltham was always a favorite of mine.
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The Postindustrialist

12-20-2007 @8:15PM The Postindustrialist said... I still prefer the pizza from the New York metropolitan area and parts of New Jersey better than I did the pizza in Chicago or the pizza on the West Coast.

Pizza out west just tastes funny and Chicago is just greasy as hell.

The Chicago Deep Dish is nothing to rave about in particular. It was like cheap diner food, much like the incredibly overrated super dogs...

I think, however, people are simply biased to like that which they grew up with, and the same time, the trademark foods of every city are perhaps more hyped than they need to be.
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Dale Cruse

12-26-2007 @8:55PM Dale Cruse said... I'll never forget Pizzeria Uno either. The first time I ate there I got "bum sick." That was also the last time I ate there.

I grew up near Chicago (Geno's East was my fave) and have never found that quality of pizza anywhere else. I live just outside of Boston now and everything I find here (all mediocre) is all thinner crust. Phantom Gourmet is entertaining but weird. Those guys have hard ons for Fuddruckers!
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Carlo

12-31-2007 @11:41AM Carlo said... There is only one place in Seattle that serve's a stuffed Chicago-style pizza along the lines of Lou Malnati's, Geno's, or Uno. It is Delfino's Pizza in the University Village, but you have to order the 'Stuffed'. You will know it is the right one because it takes 35-40 minutes to arrive. Other places, such as Wallingford Pizza, claim to have Chicago-style pizza, but all they sell is a thick crusted version of a regular pizza. Also, I have ordered Uno in other cities through the franchises, and I have never been able to get a true stuffed pizza like I can get at Uno's or Due's in Chicago at any of them. Maybe I am ordering the wrong thing?

Lastly, you can't compare New York pizza to Chicago pizza. That they are both called 'pizza' is just semantic. They are not the same food at all. Each is great for different reasons. I couldn't choose only one (and I am an Italian from Queens).
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Don Lucas

1-02-2008 @7:03PM Don Lucas said... Just in the same way, UK citizens think they have better curry in the UK than in India..I believe the US has much better pizza than in Italy. I have been there on several occasions. But in the US, new York style is mediocre in comparison to Chicago style pizza in Chicago. Giordanos and Ginos East have no peers atop the pizza world!
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