Candy Cane Bagels for the holidays

11-21-2006 @12:27PM Diana B. said... As long as they don't taste like peppermint!
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11-21-2006 @12:30PM Mona said... Not all bagels sold are savory. I have had sweet bagels at Einstein's - e.g. cinnamon, cinnamon raisin, blueberry, chocolate chip. A sweeter bagel would taste fine with regular flavored cream cheese, butter, various jams, jellies, or preserves. In addition, there are assorted sweet cream cheeses available. Before you knock these bagels, remember they are seasonal and enjoy them while you can get them.
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11-21-2006 @12:36PM angela said... Sounds good.
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11-21-2006 @12:41PM rosea said... Poor Kathied, You are so wrong. Candy canes were invented in Ohio. They were not then,nor now, a religon thing. Before you spout that stuff, learn to check www.snopes.com One of the most reliable sites for myths such as this
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11-21-2006 @12:52PM Bobbie said... hey, if they have green bagels for St. Patrick's Day, why not candy cane bagels for Christmas or where are the blue and white bagels for Chanukah in the shape of a dreidle or a Star of David?

My favorites are made by Western Bagel in Southern California and I love the "everything" bagel or a rye bagel, toasted well.
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11-21-2006 @1:12PM Miranda said... Hey Kathied I've got just one thing to say to you:

http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/candycane.asp

Claim: Candy canes were created to symbolize Jesus, their shape representing the letter "J" and their colors standing for the purity and blood of Christ.

Status: False.

Example:


A candymaker in Indiana wanted to make a candy that would be a witness, so he made the Christmas Candy Cane. He incorporated several symbols from the birth, ministry, and death of Jesus Christ.

He began with a stick of pure white, hard candy. White to symbolize the Virgin Birth and the sinless nature of Jesus, and hard to symbolize the Solid Rock, the foundation of the Church, and firmness of the promises of God.

The candymaker made the candy in the form of a "J" to represent the precious name of Jesus, who came to earth as our Savior. It could also represent the staff of the "Good Shepherd" with which He reaches down into the ditches of the world to lift out the fallen lambs who, like all sheep, have gone astray.

Thinking that the candy was somewhat plain, the candymaker stained it with red stripes. He used three small stripes to show the stripes of the scourging Jesus received by which we are healed. The large red stripe was for the blood shed by Christ on the cross so that we could have the promise of eternal life.

Unfortunately, the candy became known as a Candy Cane -- a meaningless decoration seen at Christmas time. But the meaning is still there for those who "have eyes to see and ears to hear." Every time you see a Candy Cane, remember the Wonder of Jesus and His Great Love that came down at Christmas, and that His Love remains the ultimate and dominant force in the universe today.


Variations: Candy canes are also said to have been created:
As a sweet treat for children who behaved well in church

As a form of identification among Christians during a time of persecution
Origins: The
red-and-white-striped, sugary candy cane can be found everywhere at Christmastime. It's as much an ornament as it is a confection, and people munch these treats and decorate with them, scarcely giving a thought to just where candy canes came from in the first place.

It has become fashionable of late to claim that the candy cane was not only designed to be fraught with Christian religious symbolism, but that it was created as a means by which persecuted Christians could furtively identify each other. Like the apocryphal tale of the "true" meaning of the song "The Twelve Days of Christmas," these claims are fiction — latter day attempts to infuse secular holiday traditions with specifically religious origins and meanings.

First off, the notion that candy canes could have been used as a secret means of identification by persecuted European Christians is directly contradicted by history. Candy canes didn't appear until at least the latter part of the 17th century, by which time Europe was almost entirely Christian. By then, people who were not Christians would have been the ones in need of this form of "secret handshake"!

Next, candy canes were most assuredly not created by "a candymaker in Indiana" who "stained them with red stripes to show the stripes of the scourging Jesus received." Candy canes were around long before there was an Indiana, and they initially bore neither red coloration nor striping — the red stripes were a feature that did not appear until a few hundred years later, at the beginning of the 20th century:

About 1847, August Imgard of Ohio managed to decorate his Christmas tree with candy canes to entertain his nephews and nieces. Many who saw his canes went home to boil sugar and experiment with canes of their own. It took nearly another half century before someone added stripes to the canes . . . Christmas cards produced before 1900 show plain white canes, while striped ones appear on many cards printed early in the 20th century.1
In fact, the strongest connection one can make between the origins of the candy cane and intentional Christian symbolism is to note that legend says someone took an existing form of candy which was already being used as a Christmas decoration (i.e., straight white sticks of sugar candy) and produced bent versions which represented a shepherd's crook and were handed out to children at church to ensure their good behavior:

Soon after Europeans adopted the use of Christmas trees, they began making special decorations for them. Food items predominated, with cookies and candy heavily represented. That is when straight, white sticks of sugar candy came into use at Christmas, probably during the seventeenth century.

Tradition has it that some of these candies were put to use in Cologne Cathedral about 1670 while restless youngsters were attending ceremonies around the living creche. To keep them quiet, the choirmaster persuaded craftsmen to make sticks of candy bent at the end to represent shepherds' crooks, then he passed them out to boys and girls who came to the cathedral.1
Claims made about the candy's religious symbolism have become increasingly widespread as religious leaders have assured their congregations that these mythologies are factual, the press have published these claims as authoritative answers to readers' inquiries about the confection's meaning, and several lavishly illustrated books purport to tell the "true story" of the candy cane's origins. This is charming folklore at best, and though there's nothing wrong with finding (and celebrating) symbolism where there wasn't any before, the story of the candy cane's origins is, like Santa Claus, a myth and not a "true story."

Barbara "the cane mutiny" Mikkelson

Sightings: Fictional accounts of the candy cane's religious origins are the subject of a number of colorful Christmas volumes, including The Candymaker's Gift: A Legend of the Candy Cane by Helen Haidle (1996), The Candy Cane Story by Joy Merchant Nall and Thomas Nall, Jr. (1996), The Legend of the Candy Cane by Lori Walburg (1997), and the children's book The "J" Is For Jesus by Alice Joyce Davidson (1998).

Candy canes are no more a Christian creation than trees, ornaments, mistletoe, or snow which have all been stolen for Christmas. Get an education and get a clue, thanks and Blessed Be!
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11-21-2006 @12:53PM Sara said... H & H Babels R NYs best Bagels.. whats up with all the peppermint stuff this year.. a little over the top
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11-21-2006 @1:18PM butters607 said... yuck yuck yuck and dont forget ewww!
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11-21-2006 @1:33PM Lauren said... I think they look like cute little doggy treats!! Although I think they are a clever idea for the holidays! I would definately try a candy cane shaped bagel! After all I AM a bagel lover!
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11-21-2006 @1:53PM Teresa (Kansas City) said... I tried one last week and thought they were great. I can't wait to go back for another one.
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11-21-2006 @2:31PM Betty said... glad to know I'm not the only one who wondered about the "Kosher-ness" of taking the Bagel - something tied with Jewish Traditions with the Candy Cane - a Christian symbol...

And for those who scratch their heads as to HOW the candy cane is associated with Christianity - there are several "legends" that explain the symbolism of the candy cane:
A) the white is the purity of Christ
B) proper canes have 3 stripes of red on a white cane - the stripes on the back of Christ
C) it is the shape of a shepard's staff
D) held the other direction, it is the letter J for Jesus


but, like so many religious items, they are just seen as a secular image, Santa Claus is Coming, buy buy buy . . .

http://christmas.lovetoknow.com/Candy_Canes
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11-21-2006 @2:26PM Stacie said... I think they'd be really cute for brunch, whether hosting family and friends from out of town, or planning a brunch for Christmas Eve or Christmas Day itself.

And I agree....Candy Canes aren't a religious symbol for Christmas - just a nice little side that goes along with the celebration of Jesus' birth. And - I have friends who are Jewish and Hindu who celebrate everything about Christmas except the religious part....they have the trees, the candy canes, the lights, and the Spirit of Christmas. It's a hopeful time of year, and a little more promising for mankind.
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11-22-2006 @9:21AM Kathied said... To all who sent in proof to dispute the article that I posted regarding the history of the candy cane- I came across the article and after reading some of the comments , went looking for something that told the story of what I had been told for years.....the religious significance of the candy cane. I found something to support what I had always believed to be "fact" and posted it.It now seems that what I acepted as fact was what is commonly known as an "urban myth".
I am never one to miss an oppurtunity to learn , so thank you for the info.
As to those of you who did so with rudeness and insults-
just because this comments board is anonymous does not mean that you should set aside the rules of politeness in order to make a point.I don't believe even "snopes" has got an article about the virtues of being self righteous and condescending.That attitude alone speaks volumes about one's ignorance.
Happy Holidays.
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