Perhaps some of you are just going to run out to the supermarket and pick up the first turkey that you see on the shelves of the meat section a few days before Thanksgiving. While this strategy will get you a bird, it will not necessarily get you the best bird, as evidenced by the NYT's cook-off of different types of turkey. The first step in turkey shopping is to find out what kind of turkey you actually want and how much it is going to cost you.
- Heritage turkeys are the types of birds that were served more than, say, 50 years ago when a turkey with breasts larger than the rest of the body was not necessarily desirable. Most of the breeds of bird are not commercially bred and some may even be endangered, so a limited number of them are available at a premium price.
- Free Range turkeys are ones that, like free range chickens, have the option of going outdoors instead of being completely confined, although some free range birds are actually raised completely in the open, so you might want to ask your meat provider about the origin of a free-ranger.
- Organic turkeys are raised on organic feed and without antibiotics and "natural" turkeys make similar claims. Whether you want an organic bird is a personal preference, but Bill Mattos, president of the California Poultry Federation, is quick to point out that "growth hormones and preservatives are not used in California chickens or turkeys, so you just don't have to worry about [that aspect]."
- Conventional turkeys are the least expensive and easiest to find. Some say that they have somewhat less flavor than other birds and, because they have such a large amount of breast meat, they have the potential to be drier than the meat from other birds.
Once you have the turkey, all you have to do is defrost it (unless you've found a local source for frozen turkeys), cook it to perfection and enjoy. You might also want to mention to your dinner guests the amount of time you put into the turkey-finding process so they, too, can appreciate it a bit more.








Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
11-12-2006 @ 4:14PM
Adriane said...
It's good to note that the heritage turkeys are mostly dark meat, as well.
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11-18-2006 @ 7:59AM
Harold Cockerill said...
The best method for producing a moist and flavorful bird is by emersion in a brine solution overnight.See Alton Brown's recipe at FoodTV,
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11-18-2006 @ 8:15AM
Harold said...
Want a good tasting and juicy turkey? First buy a Reynolds cooking bag. It is well worth the money. Then a buy a fresh turkey with a popup timer. When the timer pops, the turkey is done, no guesswork. Before you place the bird in the bag, rub fresh lemon all over the bird. The lemon takes any poultry type smell away. Follow the bag instructions, watch the timer and you will have a great turkey.
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11-18-2006 @ 8:35AM
Lisa said...
If you do choose a convential turkey, cooking it breast side down will keep it from being dry.
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11-18-2006 @ 8:46AM
Kathy said...
Harold is so right. I tried the bag method about 5 or 6 years ago and I've never gone back to having to open the oven, let the heat out, baste the turkey and watch it still turn out dry. But be sure to watch the turkey as it cooks ALOT faster in the bag.
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11-18-2006 @ 9:04AM
Jacqui said...
A school cafeterian told me years ago about the bag method, using a brown paper grocery bag, oiled on the inside, and crimped at the top to close it. She also told me about the overnight method, baking at 225-250 degrees. I put the bird in the oven just before going to bed, and it smells heavenly in the morning.
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11-18-2006 @ 9:27AM
Michelle said...
With the bag method do you have to baste it?
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11-18-2006 @ 9:40AM
bruce said...
take the turkey in the cavity insert fresh oranges some slices of apple and some cold butter wype turkey down with oilive oil then add poultry seasoning and rub bird put in plastic bag set timer cook till half done remove from over gently turn turkey over brest side down return to over all the juice will filter through the brest meat makeing a very moist juicy bird
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11-18-2006 @ 9:50AM
David Devlin said...
Go to a Jewish grocery store, and buy a Kosher Turkey. Best you will ever eat.
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11-18-2006 @ 9:51AM
Brian said...
2 words: DEEP FRIED. Although it sounds greasy it actually produces the best turkey (which isn't greasy because the skin fries first and then keeps the grease out...I guess) I have ever had. It cooks at 3 min per pound and we usually rub the inside and out with seasoned salt or cajun seasoning (depending on your spiciness desired). It does require a special frier, a big one.
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11-18-2006 @ 9:54AM
Jack C said...
For the past 15 years we've been using a Brinkman Smoker to cook our T-day turkey. The skin is the perfect golden/brown and very crispy and flavorful and the meat is the juciest of any method. Now, it takes a bit of prep. First, I use a quart sized metal bowl filled with hickory chips that were soaked in white wine over night and the bowl if full of wine/chips mix. That goes in the bottom holder with the charcoal (Oh and don't use the "Chemical" type commercial bag charcoal, get the good stuff) the turkey is slathered in a butter/Jack Daniels paste, inside and out and then cooked breast down. I put in on at about 6 am and it's ready for afternoon dinner. we've been going to the ocean beach with the motor home for years and everyone in camp has to come by to taste/see what the smell is!!! Absolutely the best
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11-18-2006 @ 10:00AM
Brenda West said...
My suggestion is to prepare the turkey by rubbing it all over with a vegetable oil, salt and pepper it and stuff it with carrots, onions, celery, apple, fresh tyme and fresh rosemary This makes the turkey taste good and the drippings are unbelieveably yummy for gravy. Then roast the turkey in a shallow pan at 500 degrees for the first 30 minutes, then turn the heat down to 350 and roast until a meat thermomator reaches 161 degrees. Let it rest 30 minutes before carving. I'm facinated by the brining method but for those of us that need to restrict our sodium intake, it's not a good idea.
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11-18-2006 @ 10:07AM
Debbie said...
Dress your table with this dressing!
one loaf of the cheapest generic bread you can find--cubed and dried.
One pan of cornbread--I'll give you that, also--broken up and dried
1 extra large onion--2 smaller ones will do--cut up small
celery--break off 3 or 4 stems from the big stalk--wash and use the leaves, also
4 cloves garlic
2 heaping tablespoons sage
6 whole eggs
1 stick of butter or margarine
boiled gizzards (optional)about a pound--coooked with salt, pepper and onion---you can use the broth as part of this dressing.
NOW!
Find the biggest bowl in your kitchen as you will need it!
Put all this stuff ( do all your cutting the day before so all you have to do is throw it together)-
in the bowl--add enough chicken broth to make it soupy, Mix it all up and add enough salt and pepper to flavor it--but be careful!!! Don't make it salty to taste--it will end up too salty when it has finished baking! Let it sit until the dressing has "softened" and is still a little more like panckae batter. DON'T STIR IT TOO MUCH OR IT WILL BE PASTY!
TRANSFER IT TO SMALLER PANS--I USE ONE BIG ONE FOR THE TABLE--THE REST GOES IN LOAF DISPOSABLE LOAF PANS SO THE KIDS CAN TAKE SOME HOME WITH THEM.
Bake it at 350 degrees covered with aluminum foil about an hour. It will rise in the pan some. Take off the foil and brown the top. The longer you cook it the drier it gets,but most people don't like it dry--this is something you can slice when it is cold. And the longer you cook it the saltier it gets!
ENJOY!
Cornbread
2/3 cup of Cornmeal
1 cup Flour
2 eggs
1 1/2 teaspoons baking powder
1/2 teaspoon baking soda
2 tablespoons sugar
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/3 cup cooking oil
Enough milk to bring it to pancake battter consistency
Grease pan and dust with cornmeal
Pre-heat oven to 400 degrees-put the mix in the oven--wait 5 minutes and lower heat to 350, Bake until the top is a golden brown. It will rise like the dickens--not like your regular stuff--and it will be moist on the inside--crunchy on the outside! Be sure to check for doneness with a toothpick and don't cook to long. It usually take about 35 minutes. But the best indicator is the browning on the top.
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11-18-2006 @ 10:08AM
Debbie said...
I use the bag, also. I have for years. But the best trick is to get a smaller turkey. If you need a large amount, consider getting 2 at no more than 10 pounds each. Smaller turkeys are not as dry, cook quicker, and have much more flavor. I've even gone the school agriculture fund-raising sale smoked turkeys! They are delicious, and only reguire thawing and heating as they are fully cooked. They are great for people who only get the one day off and have to work late the day before Thanksgiving! They saved many a Thanksgiving for us when I was working the late shift. And try my dressing recipe! It will follow in the next comment!It was one I adapted from Lady Bird Johnson's recipe that was published in the paper when I was a kid!
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11-18-2006 @ 10:15AM
Linda Lee said...
Remember as stated above, cooking in a bag greatly reduces the cooking time. Years ago, when I cooked the turkey prior to putting in a bag, it took hours to ensure the bird was cooked properly. Now, I have to remind myself each year that by putting the turkey in a bag, it will be done in just a few hours. I have used the clear bags, remembering to put some flour in the bag prior to putting in the bird. I also stuff my bird with some dressing as my family loves it that way. The remainder of stuffing (dressing) is cooked in the oven after I take the turkey out. I make traditional sage stuffing and a good friend, an older Irish woman, told me to use saltines with the bread. Just one package or less. Also, she always toasted her bread the night before. These things do make a difference. I also use eggs, celery and onion sauted (sp?) in butter, simmer the giblets, ect. with water, celery and onion and use this to moisten; add sage and poultry seasoning to taste. Stuff, put in bag, put in small amount of flour, and bake. Enjoy!!
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11-18-2006 @ 10:15AM
Bob said...
A note about smoking a turkey. first you do want lump charcoal not the commercial briquets. You should plan on about 1 hour of smoke time per lb. of turkey. it's also hard to properly smoke a turkey much larger than 12 lbs. keep the smoker temp between 200 and 225. Smoked turkey actually tastes better the next day.
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11-18-2006 @ 10:19AM
JoAnn said...
I ve been cooking my turkey the day before for several years...I cook it in a roaster,debone it, then pour chicken broth and juices from cooking over it ...put it in refrigerator overnight and all I have to do is warm up for 30-45min before eating ...no mess on Thanksgiving day and I have time to play with my grandchild.
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11-18-2006 @ 10:24AM
Peggy R said...
I found out the best way to defrost a rock solid frozen turkey in less than 4 hours:
I took the 14.5 pound rock solid frozen butterball turkey out of the package and immersed it in a large cooler with warm water in which I had added approximately 3/4 to 1 cup of salt. The thing that took the longest to defrost enough to remove was the plastic bag with the neck inside. This is NOT a recommended method for defrosting a turkey, but it is possible to thaw the turkey if you wish to get the turkey ready to cook quickly. I then removed the turkey from the salty water and stuffed the turkey, cooking it as usual. It is important to cook the turkey right away if defrosting it in this way to prevent (e. Coli or somonella) bacteria formation. The turkey was delicious.
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11-18-2006 @ 10:56AM
mJ said...
I buy my turkeys when the price is low, right now 25 cents a pound have seen them at 18 cents last year. I buy about three large birds. My family loves turkey anytime. Dont care what kind it is, I have found the store brand better than the more expensive ones!Grew up on butterball never thought it was that great or flavorful. IHave no problem in roasting a turkey anytime during the fall and winter. Breast side down will give you moister breast meat. Salt pepper it and rub with olive oil, the trick is to season the inside cavity well,also add a whole onion or two inside. I dont baste unless it is looking very dry, leav it alone set the timer and you will have a perfect bird.Bake 325 25 minutes per pound!
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11-18-2006 @ 11:01AM
Mike said...
We have turkey at least once a month not just for holidays. Delicious meal and great leftovers.
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