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I'm not sure if there should be 46 of anything in one city, except maybe schools.
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5-18-2006 @2:03PM Stephanie said... Well, actually, 46 is not techically correct. That's how many are within 5 miles of "San Jose" (which is defined as downtown). Some of those are outside San Jose proper, and this misses some within San Jose as well. If you expand the search to 10 miles, you get 108. Again, some outside San Jose and maybe not getting all of San Jose's still, since it is a pretty big city.
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5-18-2006 @2:09PM Dave said... There aren't any starbucks in the city of detroit because the only people that are there(which are few) cannot afford a 4 dollar latte. everyone who drinks starbucks lives in metro-detroit. and if you counted up the shops in the suburbs, it would be a staggering number for sure.
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5-18-2006 @2:19PM Al said... As a South Bay resident, I must point out that San Jose statistics can be very deceiving. The area technically considered San Jose includes a very large swath of suburbia in an odd blob shape that stretches over 20 miles both East-West and North-South. The city itself is rather small, but the area that bears its name is HUGE. This is why San Jose has a higher population count than San Francisco, which is a much larger city but doesn't include much of anything else.
You can draw a straight line on a map that starts in San Jose, goes through Santa Clara, Sunnyvale, and Cupertino, and ends up back in San Jose.
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5-18-2006 @2:47PM jmchez said... I believe New York has over 300 in Manhattan alone. There are areas that have four within a two block radius. Around Union Square there have to be three Starbucks and three or four other similar Cafes, whether inside the Barnes and Noble, Virgin Mega store or other establishments.
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5-18-2006 @2:54PM J.Ho said... I lived in the Willow Glen area of San Jose. There are a lot of Starbucks in the San Jose metro area. I also lived in San Francisco for four years. If you stand in a certian spot inside the Metreon movie theater in San Francisco, you can look directly at the Starbucks in the theater, then turn your head to the right and see the Starbucks acropss the street through the windows of the PlayStation store, then if you turn your head to the upper left you can see the Starbucks up above the waterfall in the plaza between the theater and the SF MOMA. At least you could when I lived there a few years ago.
What has the world come to when you van sip coffee in one Starbucks and see two other Starbucks with a couple hundred feet?
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5-18-2006 @3:44PM Baron said... There was an article where someone spoke with a higher up at Starbucks to find out more about the planning they use when deciding where to put in a store. It was quite interesting. Long story short, their strategy (which is very evident in some cities where there litterly are two Starbucks on either side of the street) is that people are pretty set in their ways. On the way to or from somewhere, they see a Starbucks or coffee store across the street and think "Gee, I'd like to have something to drink, but I'm running late, the line is sort of long, and it's out of my way (even just a bit)" But, on the other hand, if that person happens pass a Starbucks that is on their same route, they are much more likely to go in. Based on their performance, I would say it works quite well. I do believe when you start getting more than one store in the same mall, you are getting rather excessive though.
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5-18-2006 @6:09PM Finished.Law.School said... Detroit is a ghetto. Is anyone surprised at the low number of anything there, whether it be IQ, literacy, murder or crime statistics, businesses or Starbucks'?
The chances of getting robbed or killed while at a Starbucks in Detroit must be astounding. Additionally, it is likely that Detroiters use drugs to stay awake and keep going rather than coffee.
Maybe this is a harsh comment but look at the statistics - you will see that there is a very good chance that all of my comments are very accurate.
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5-18-2006 @10:04PM lance fulcrum said... wow, i almost feel bad following such a racist, biggoted rant, but here goes.
i live in a town of 60,000, Davis, California, and we have 3. It is entirely surprising that Detroit only has 6, and while it surprises me that it surprises me that the lovely Michigan town has only so many, i'm no longer suprised by Starbucks.
yah.
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5-20-2006 @8:36PM eander said... In Houston we have two directly across the street from each other, within shouting distance. It seems stupid until you try to make a left turn into that parking lot during morning traffic. There are so many Starbucks here that at no point in the day am I more than a short walk from one.
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5-29-2006 @7:38AM Jeffrey S. Smith said... Yes, I think Starbucks is very good. But just how long can any company keep up such a rate of expansion without hitting the wall? Time to hit the brakes.
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6-29-2006 @9:46PM FromDetroitandloveit said... I am not sure if anyone will get a chance to read this. I came across this blog searching for another topic, but I need to state this. I am from Detroit and I drink lots of coffee. My favorite is Coffee Bean which does not exists in Detroit, but on the other hand, there are plenty of coffee shops in Detroit. It's like Seattle was before Starbucks went the corporate branding route. Detroiters do drink coffee; we do not do drugs to stay up. The one person who made that comment is probably the type of person you see hanging out in the bad areas buying drugs to take them back home. Listen as to why there aren't any Starbucks, it comes down to money. Yes, there is crime, but that affects insurance rates which affects dollars. To deny a franchise based on the other "crime" reasons given would be the same as to not have a McDonalds. Many of my friends, including myself go to Starbucks often. So we have to drive a little. It makes it worth while considering at this moment I live in Vegas and there is one on every corner. Also, the Starbucks located in Detroit is in the "high crime areas" according statistics and of those, only one is owned by a black person, Magic Johnson. The others are truly Starbucks. As to who can afford a $4 coffee, the medium income range in Detroit is 30k. They can afford, just choose not to. It is not a life style for your average factory worker to go to the coffee shop and write in their blog sipping on a Venti Soy White Chocolate Mocha (my fav), a worker who by the way makes an average income of 70k a year. A note for those who like statistics or should need to cross reference their research.
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